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		<title>By: Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.paotie.tv/2008/05/03/deafhood-promoting-deaf-boobs/comment-page-1/#comment-2869</link>
		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, yeah Ann C I knew I didn&#039;t type something right.  :)

yeah quiet day....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, yeah Ann C I knew I didn&#8217;t type something right.  <img src='http://www.paotie.tv/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>yeah quiet day&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann_C</title>
		<link>http://www.paotie.tv/2008/05/03/deafhood-promoting-deaf-boobs/comment-page-1/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candy, do you mean &quot;exclusion&quot; rather?  Confused English, maybe?  Sorry, if I misconstrued the word.

Too quiet here...only Tuesday, I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candy, do you mean &#8220;exclusion&#8221; rather?  Confused English, maybe?  Sorry, if I misconstrued the word.</p>
<p>Too quiet here&#8230;only Tuesday, I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.paotie.tv/2008/05/03/deafhood-promoting-deaf-boobs/comment-page-1/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what people value as in &quot;cherish&quot; varies among individuals.   Apparently she was accused of labeling people in the first place which prompted her to do this vlog.

But, like i said, it varies. You will have ASL/CI that values deaf culture over their own family and vice versa.  Same thing with ASL person.  Most of us value the relationship we have with our parents and relatives, or whomever it is we care about in our life, and we approach it and make decisions in our lives in many areas based on the value, whichever way we see fit.  Likewise, CY should be open and understanding when hearing parents who value close relationship with their deaf child and sees C.I. as a way to keep the parent/child relationship flourishing.  To each its own.  I think Cy is just covering her butt.  But, is it a justification for deafside?  I don&#039;t think so.  it&#039;s like saying ok, you cherish this, therefore, you belong &quot;there&quot; and because we cherish &quot;this&quot; we belong &quot;here.&quot;   It is still dividing and to me, it is not diversity.  It all still comes down to inclusion and/or discrimination.  JMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what people value as in &#8220;cherish&#8221; varies among individuals.   Apparently she was accused of labeling people in the first place which prompted her to do this vlog.</p>
<p>But, like i said, it varies. You will have ASL/CI that values deaf culture over their own family and vice versa.  Same thing with ASL person.  Most of us value the relationship we have with our parents and relatives, or whomever it is we care about in our life, and we approach it and make decisions in our lives in many areas based on the value, whichever way we see fit.  Likewise, CY should be open and understanding when hearing parents who value close relationship with their deaf child and sees C.I. as a way to keep the parent/child relationship flourishing.  To each its own.  I think Cy is just covering her butt.  But, is it a justification for deafside?  I don&#8217;t think so.  it&#8217;s like saying ok, you cherish this, therefore, you belong &#8220;there&#8221; and because we cherish &#8220;this&#8221; we belong &#8220;here.&#8221;   It is still dividing and to me, it is not diversity.  It all still comes down to inclusion and/or discrimination.  JMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Mayes</title>
		<link>http://www.paotie.tv/2008/05/03/deafhood-promoting-deaf-boobs/comment-page-1/#comment-2866</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I saw that.  I thought it was a good blog, attempting to explain the values... which is something that deaf people don&#039;t understand.  But then hearing people don&#039;t understand either ;o)  We all have our own definition of values, which can easily rub off other people in wrong way.  Same goes for a sense of humor... there are all kinds of humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I saw that.  I thought it was a good blog, attempting to explain the values&#8230; which is something that deaf people don&#8217;t understand.  But then hearing people don&#8217;t understand either ;o)  We all have our own definition of values, which can easily rub off other people in wrong way.  Same goes for a sense of humor&#8230; there are all kinds of humor.</p>
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		<title>By: White Ghost</title>
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		<dc:creator>White Ghost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Whistle*

Argh!  Pffft!

Take a visit to Cy&#039;s Deaf Tea Time, &quot;CI/ASL &amp; Culturally Deaf &quot;Divided&quot; By Values, Not By Labels&quot; as of yesterday, 5 May 08.

I strongly disagree with her views 100 percent.  Being a labeled person does not mean anything.  Some of the CI-ASL users consider themselves a culturally deaf person.  In a way, they were raised by deaf family and relatives.

I am sure that Cy forgot to discuss about the CI-ASL users who came from Deaf family and relatives.

Discussing about the values at Cy&#039;s blog does not help anything, either.

Hey, Candy!  Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Whistle*</p>
<p>Argh!  Pffft!</p>
<p>Take a visit to Cy&#8217;s Deaf Tea Time, &#8220;CI/ASL &amp; Culturally Deaf &#8220;Divided&#8221; By Values, Not By Labels&#8221; as of yesterday, 5 May 08.</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with her views 100 percent.  Being a labeled person does not mean anything.  Some of the CI-ASL users consider themselves a culturally deaf person.  In a way, they were raised by deaf family and relatives.</p>
<p>I am sure that Cy forgot to discuss about the CI-ASL users who came from Deaf family and relatives.</p>
<p>Discussing about the values at Cy&#8217;s blog does not help anything, either.</p>
<p>Hey, Candy!  Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And... often the child&#039;s needs change as the child gets older, so the circumstances change, etc.  The &quot;wholeness&quot; also involves the expected changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And&#8230; often the child&#8217;s needs change as the child gets older, so the circumstances change, etc.  The &#8220;wholeness&#8221; also involves the expected changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... that is one problem with education.  There are many approaches and many people agree or disagree, backing up with evidences and experiences... personal and professional.  That is why I just say the parental involvement is essential and that we need to take a look at the &quot;whole&quot; child... deaf and hearing.  If I say ASL is not always the answer, I&#039;d be labeled as angry, bigot, etc.  If I say ASL is the only way, I&#039;d be looked on with approval.

*shrug*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; that is one problem with education.  There are many approaches and many people agree or disagree, backing up with evidences and experiences&#8230; personal and professional.  That is why I just say the parental involvement is essential and that we need to take a look at the &#8220;whole&#8221; child&#8230; deaf and hearing.  If I say ASL is not always the answer, I&#8217;d be labeled as angry, bigot, etc.  If I say ASL is the only way, I&#8217;d be looked on with approval.</p>
<p>*shrug*</p>
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		<title>By: Ann_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM,

Don&#039;t forget there are also a few in the CI community who have a dim view of deafness, that it is &quot;not normal&quot;, that &quot;I wouldn&#039;t want my CI child to associate with these crazy, angry, signing, (stick-a-label here) Deaf&quot;, and that signing interferes with AVT (like how many hours are in a day here?)and the child&#039;s education (ok, monolingual it is then), and a plethora of other nutsy stuff.

Hard to strike a rational balance, hey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget there are also a few in the CI community who have a dim view of deafness, that it is &#8220;not normal&#8221;, that &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t want my CI child to associate with these crazy, angry, signing, (stick-a-label here) Deaf&#8221;, and that signing interferes with AVT (like how many hours are in a day here?)and the child&#8217;s education (ok, monolingual it is then), and a plethora of other nutsy stuff.</p>
<p>Hard to strike a rational balance, hey?</p>
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		<title>By: MM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tell you what Ann C, they are quite covert about how they do it as well !  They will trawl online to find ANYTHING that &#039;Might&#039; suggest an issue, or, give them something to focus negativity on. there is a lot of duplicity around !    There wa WW£ in the UK over a blog posted on DR where not one single blog coveringthe CI had anything positive to say, when taken to task, they said we just re-print what others say. (Then add the this is cruel,undermines deaf culture to it all !).

The general view is parents are too thick to understand deafness is fun and great, and Dr&#039;s want to tiurn everyone intohearing people who are the dregs of the planet apprently..... so leave it alone, and stop the child abuse (That&#039;s some of the moderate stuff you can read),  or stuff like &quot;How cruel these parents are to attack our deaf children (OUR ?), and drill holes in their heads, how will they be able to swim with the holes in their head ?&quot;  I kid you not.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tell you what Ann C, they are quite covert about how they do it as well !  They will trawl online to find ANYTHING that &#8216;Might&#8217; suggest an issue, or, give them something to focus negativity on. there is a lot of duplicity around !    There wa WW£ in the UK over a blog posted on DR where not one single blog coveringthe CI had anything positive to say, when taken to task, they said we just re-print what others say. (Then add the this is cruel,undermines deaf culture to it all !).</p>
<p>The general view is parents are too thick to understand deafness is fun and great, and Dr&#8217;s want to tiurn everyone intohearing people who are the dregs of the planet apprently&#8230;.. so leave it alone, and stop the child abuse (That&#8217;s some of the moderate stuff you can read),  or stuff like &#8220;How cruel these parents are to attack our deaf children (OUR ?), and drill holes in their heads, how will they be able to swim with the holes in their head ?&#8221;  I kid you not&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jodi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Interesting, very interesting. Give me another five years and you&#039;ll see quite a rack on this Mamma. kiss kiss, Jodi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Interesting, very interesting. Give me another five years and you&#8217;ll see quite a rack on this Mamma. kiss kiss, Jodi</p>
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